| Author | Message | |||
| helge quisdorf
Unregistered guest |
i plan on building a 1/80 scale rc model of a battleship for use on an area lake, wonder if anyone may be able to offer some insight on the best way to build the hull and on what materials to use, the model will be 10 feet long, just dont know what weight it will have to carry, any help would be greatly appreciated. | |||
| John C. Simons
Unregistered guest |
I can't help you directly because I've done only 4-5 ft. models - non warship types. I would be very interested in your progress and results if you care to share them. | |||
| helge quisdorf Unregistered guest |
will keep updates posted, just getting all the prepwork done to sse what materials i need to use, i have considered all metal on the hull but think it will be way too heavy, any comments or suggestions are welcome...btw it will be a model of the french battleship richelieu, if anyone has any documents and/or pictures and would'nt mind sharing that would be great...thanks | |||
| John C. Simons
Unregistered guest |
I strongly suggest using fiber-glass and epoxy for your hull, at least. [Epoxy is easier to mix and I think harder when cured. I have used 2 & 3 oz. cloth - you may want to use heavier weight. Do you intend to RC the vessel? | |||
| helge quisdorf Unregistered guest |
yes, i have plans for it to radio controlled and multi function, turrets, radar and (maybe)firing guns, i agree with your idea of fiberglass, just don't know how to keep the surface of the hull smooth and watertight when using the cloth, have not had much luck of keeping it smooth to where you dont sand into the cloth when prepping the hull, if you have any suggestions of that it would definetly help...thanks | |||
| John C. Simons
Unregistered guest |
Pat Tritle wrote an article, "Fiberglass for Wooden Hulls" in 'Radio Control Boat Modeler' and I have found it to be very informative. You can contact him: PatsCustomModels@aol.com and I will be glad to send you a copy of that article if you'll tell me where to send it. | |||
| helge quisdorf Unregistered guest |
do you mean e-mail or snail mail? i appreciate the offer to supply that article, just let me know what address you need and i'll get it to you....thanks | |||
| John C. Simons
Unregistered guest |
Send me regular mail address - I'm not to good at e-mail attachments and it's a couple of pages long. You might send it to my e-mail address rsther than posting it here [?] | |||
| helge quisdorf Unregistered guest |
i think i've figured out what i'm going to use to build the hull, tell me what you think, 1" x1" x 8'for keel with solid wood stem and stern, 1/2 plywood for bulkheads, then plank with either balsa or hardwood planks with cloth and resin on outside and resin on inside. i think it should be able to stand up to the rigors of transport and rc as well as carry the weight need in ballast and accessories. | |||
| Jolly_roger
New member Username: Jolly_roger Post Number: 2 Registered: 11-2004 |
Very interested in any information that you obtain as I am getting ready to build from scratch an 82' USCGC at 1/24 scale and like you I am new at it. So maybe we can pass tips or advise to each other. I wish to make it RC when finished also. | |||
| helge quisdorf Unregistered guest |
that would be great, i don't mind passing any info along, how long will your model be? will you radio control it and what other functions do you plan to install? | |||
| Jolly_roger
New member Username: Jolly_roger Post Number: 3 Registered: 11-2004 |
Changed my mind the 82' USCG boat is going to be 1/16 scale which will make it a approximately five foot long and approximately 15 inches wide. It will be twin screws with rotating radar mast and the normal navigational lights. | |||
| allmanj50@yahoo.com Unregistered guest |
This is to Helge Quisdorf, back in the late 70's or earily 80's there were two predominate modeling magazines for model boat builders. I believe one was called scale model war ships,the other R/C boat modeler,anyway their was an article about a modeler building I believe an Iowa class battle ship at a very large scale. The model was large enough to contain a gasoline generator for suppling power for two electric motors and various working details.To give you an idea as to it's size the model was transported on a large trailer and put into the water with a crane.I remember this because the model made two different modeling magazines within a two year span.This model may have been donated to a museum maybe this will jog someone's memory. | |||
| Jens Norby Unregistered guest |
I have scratch built a 1:96 model of the Battleship Yamato its almost 8 feet long I used wood framing then over that solid pine plankinig finally I covered that with 1/4 inch of fiberglass. The model fully loaded with running gear, battries and balast is 135 pounds. If you need more info leeave me a message. jens | |||
| Yamato Fan
Unregistered guest |
@ Jens Norby What size motors did you use? What type of batteries? Send me and Email if you can thanks j o n j o n z i l l a @ a o l . c o m | |||
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| Daboltr23
New member Username: Daboltr23 Post Number: 1 Registered: 8-2006 Posted From: 199.29.6.2 |
I'm building a battleship as well. I used 3/4" plywood for the bulkheads and built the stern from the same thickness plywood layered. I used 3/16 plywood for the planking then covered it in a layer of automotive fiberglass. After I sanded the whole thing smooth, I covered it with a 1/8" layer of epoxy. I didn't really use any existing ship for the design, but everyone who comes to my shop tells me how good it looks. I still have to work on the upper superstructure making it work with my original design. | |||
| Hobbyfan
New member Username: Hobbyfan Post Number: 1 Registered: 8-2006 Posted From: 63.235.200.205 |
This is what my design looks like im making an RC edmund Fitzgerald boat and im looking for an inexpensive model (see attachment) And Im making mine out of Fiberglass
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| Ted
New member Username: Ted Post Number: 1 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 24.107.243.46 |
I built a large (7'6")Bismarck battleship which took 1.5 years to build. I bought a Revell plastic model and measured all the parts then multiplied the dimensions by three. This all by pencil on paper. The keel was 1x2 pine, the bow and stern solid blocks of cherry. The frames were cut of 1/4" plywood to drawings I made from measurements of the model hull taken at 1/8" intervals from the tabletop. The hull was planked with balsa sheet and covered with fiberglass cloth. It showed the cloth weave up close but time and materials were short. The superstructure was balsa except for solid cherry turrets and stack. I purchased three Graupner 9v motors, shafts, propellers, universal joints for connecting them and mounted all this in the stern. A variable rheostat controlled speed and direction, but only full speed in reverse. Twin rudders of brass were activated by a servo. I sailed it using 10!-6v lantern batteries in parallel for motor power. This was at a local park with an oval pond about 100x200 meters. Several people who were leaving for the day got back out of their cars and photographed it. They said it looked very good in the viewfinder. I have no picture of it.It sailed for many hours with no loss of speed. Here are some observations concerning sailing large model battleships: 1)A scale hull will float so high in the water(freeboard) that the props will churn air! The incredible weight of the steel is not mimicked by the wood. It may help to float a model ship fully equipped with batteries and all parts except shafts installed, note the displacement depth, then install the shafts accordingly. And maybe reduce the height of the hull sides for better appearance. 2)The props were easily fouled by plant debris floating in the pond. The pond looked clean but there was enough to cause trouble. A shaft would jam and it's motor would get warm. My next model will use some type of detachable screen prop guard to keep the shafts clear. 3)When sailing downwind, it is nearly impossible to turn against the wind and reverse course. The hull acts as a sail. It became necessary to install a rudder driven by a second servo at a point about 1/4 of the way back from the bow on the keel centerline. This rudder was a piece of brass sheet 3/4" x 3", tapered up to the hull at each end. It pivoted at a point 1/3 of the way back from it's front tip. It really bit into the water and allowed very sharp turns under all conditions. It is an absolute must for my next ship, but will be mechanically connected to the main rudder to save servo battery power. 4)The fiberglass hull is the best type,indestructible. I tried to push a floating beer bottle to shore, it shattered the bottle! The hull never leaked a drop of water, the Graupner shafts were excellent. I speak in past-tense, I no longer have the model. The superstructure was smashed in a move to Colorado, and the hull was left behind there. I have only one of the side turrets left, a solid cherry twin mount almost 2" long. I am planning an 8' Japanese Destroyer, also of fiberglass. I will use many techniques and materials not available 25 years ago when I built Bismarck, such as calculator, computer and internet to get advice and find parts. I will be able to search and find hull shape drawings online, I hope. I will use Graupner if I can afford it, quality means reliable fun. Some type of carrying frame (drydock?)will be necessary to handle a large model without damage. The next model will have to ride on top of the car, or be towed! P.S. I pray for all the families and sailors of the U.S., Kreigsmarine, RN, and IJN who died fighting for their nations. I thank the German and Japanese people for half a century of friendship and cooperation. They are represented in my area by Siemens Electric and Honda Motors,respectively, both makers of the finest quality products. | |||
| Beast1061
New member Username: Beast1061 Post Number: 1 Registered: 5-2008 Posted From: 86.161.115.197 |
Hi there can any 1 help me please im looking into build a big battle ship r/c im just wondering ware i can get the plans from i built a king george v but te training centre i lent it to doesnt excist any more and i cant trace em to find out wot happened to my ship | |||
| Majorcoffman
New member Username: Majorcoffman Post Number: 1 Registered: 2-2009 Posted From: 92.39.210.58 |
Hi guys, I'am looking for anyone who might have blueprints, or patterns for cutting the wood parts for the bismarck in scale 1:00 or 1:200. I currently am getting the hatchett parts every two weeks, but this is very slow and mading coming to russia, and help would be greatful thanks alot love reading your articles here |
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