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410er
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Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 7:05 pm:   

What hook size and type is good for Tog fishing?Got my own ideas but want to see what everyone else uses.What about color?(black,nickle,gold,etc)Can't wait till Oct.!
Dckhd247
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Post Number: 304
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 7:12 pm:   

I use black 2/0 hooks...Just tied on dropper loops off of the mainline...Always worked for me...Went tog fishing with Dick one time but he used hooks made out of some kinda rubber...Or at least it seemed that way...hehe
Gradywhite244
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Post Number: 184
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Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 10:03 pm:   

I use a #4 longshank black hooks tied so they stand 90º to the leader, two hooks about 10" apart. Often Mr. Blackfish will steal one bait then get greedy & try for the second. Mr. Blackfish's mistake.
Striperkiller
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Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 11:46 pm:   

3/0 octopus gami's . i just use one hook !


hheeeeyyyyyyyyy!!!
Seadawg
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Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 6:27 am:   

Tom, to me, what is far more important than hook style is how sharp you keep your hook. But that is another thread in itself. To your question .......

I personally use all styles and colors of hooks, and I measure the size by laying the hook gap radius around my thumb. If it is close to that gap size, I like it.

If I specifically buy hooks for tog, I buy VMC vanadium hooks, they have been the stoutest I have found, and hold a sharp point the longest.

But I fish different than a lot of guys for tog, I prefer to use use 80# to 100# braid mostly, all the drag the reel can handle, and it is truly me and the fish when one hits.

I lose very few rigs too (hehe)

Ron
Jay_little
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Post Number: 1246
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 6:50 am:   

Here are some posts on this topic from the past.....

http://www.cafelocale.com/discus/messages/15/2540.html
http://www.cafelocale.com/discus/messages/15/11884.html
http://www.cafelocale.com/discus/messages/15/3347.html
Gman
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Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 9:14 am:   

If there shallow like around the breakers in the spring I like a 1/4oz bare jig.
Dick
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Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 9:15 am:   

I knew I was doing something wrong.... :-)
Zoom
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Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 1:13 pm:   

ok you guys might have a field day with this but when im useing live little quarter size marsh crabs or fiddlers the size of a quarter or a little bigger i use a #2 gami bait holder these hooks are so sharp if you look at them to long your stuck and they are very strong . i know there thin and they do break with reversed pressure when you take them out of a fish sometimes but for the little baits they are ulbelievable and a tog just inhales the little crabs in never feeling the hook ive caught tog up to 10#2oz on these hooks and i swear by the little gami.ZOOM
410er
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Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 4:42 pm:   

Ok,here is what I thought.Hook size of 2/0 and a mustad 92553 in black.Rig is made with #50 Seagar flurocarbon.Was using a 2 hook rig(T&B) with the first at about 4" and 2nd at 8" above that.How does that single hook rig look?Like to give that a try sometime.
Dckhd247
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Post Number: 307
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 4:46 pm:   

I use that rig...Same hook style exactly but only one hook...And I usually just use 30 lb stick leader...No expensive flouro for me...
Zoom
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Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 10:30 am:   

on the single hook rig i use a 3 way and a 4"dropper of lesser #test then your leader the dropper helps feel the lightest touch experiment with both dropper lenght the leader i have had the best results #40 no longer then 16" its amazing to me how important the dropper is to feel them nipping the bait i think the the little bit of play in there helps 2 ways 1 the tog doesnt have the weight of the sinker to use when he hits to use as resistance to pick you clean and 2when he does pick it up you got that little bit of time till he feels the weight now dont get me wrong when they are really chewing you dont have to do this but on them picky days this is the only rig i use.
Bottomrig
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Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 3:37 pm:   

The old standby Tog hooks are Mustad~Virginia #4011E. Hollow Slightly Curved Point, Turned Down Ball Eye, Blued. I use Size #3 with nice size Green Crabs cut in half. These hooks must by sharpened before using as they are very dull right out of the box.
Dick
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Post Number: 1888
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Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 4:38 pm:   

If you need to sharpen hooks right out of the box, why would you buy them? Are they that much better than others that come sharp? Do they hold a point better? Just curious. I don't have a prefered hook or anything. I just use whats available or the cheapest.
Bottomrig
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Posted on Friday, July 25, 2003 - 1:15 am:   

Dick,
If I could buy hooks shaped like the Mustad~Virginia #4011E that were sharp out of the box I would. These hooks seem like they were designed for Tog. I hand sharpen each hook and then have a great trusted Tog hook and much cheaper by the 100 than the little packs of 5 or 6 super sharp hooks. This is the hook snelled and sold on most Party Boats That go Toggin.
Dick
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Posted on Friday, July 25, 2003 - 9:46 am:   

I'll have to give them a try. Of course I'd need to be able to hook a tog first to be able to try them. :-)
Dckhd247
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Posted on Saturday, July 26, 2003 - 7:20 pm:   

Right!!!
Gman
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Posted on Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 12:36 am:   

Roger on the small bait.Clean most all the shell off a half a greencrab so its just a tasty morsel. Hook it on a 1/4oz jig and float it down the face of the breakers or the wall. If your quick on the tap he'll never knew what hit him. Ain't deep hooked one yet.
Brad
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Posted on Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 1:48 am:   

I ditto Bottomrig, Virginia hooks by the hundred, and sharpen them when you use them. I spool about 25-30 yds of 30-40# mono on top of my reg. bottom rods, make a 6" sinker loop at the end and leave a 6" tag end for tying on the hook. The rig is simple, and no great loss when snagged. I did start making pencil sinkers with a straight wire on one end to loop on the line. If it get's hung, the wire straightens and the rig is free. I saved several tog by loosing the sinker and freeing the fish. I also use a wire loop to attatch a bank sinker of heavier weights that will release the sinker as well. I permanately attatch one end of the wire to the mono loop, and bend the other around the eye of the bank sinker. It saves a lot of re-rigging time.
Bottomrig
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Posted on Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 2:24 am:   

Brad,
I like the wire sinker release idea, what kind of wire do ya use to make it?
bottomrig